fredvanner
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... where "Sifir'" (originally from Persian / arabic) is the same word as English "cypher", which used to mean "zero". (I don't speak / read Turkish, but I am interested in etymology).
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I believe they are the same thing. Even though Turkic/Turkish is a non Indo-European language words frequently cross barriers. For example Kahraman is really a Persian word even though it is very common amongst the Turks. Persian also happens to be Indo-European. The Azeris are a Persian people who became Turkified (language-wise) due to the occupation of the Oghuz Turks. Similarly in Asia Minor the Turkic genetic contribution varies with the highest amounts in the northwest of the peninsula...where incidentally the Osmanli (Ottoman) empire began. The amounts are at most 15%..and the vast majority of Turks are descendants of Armenians in the east and Greeks in the west....not ignoring the presence of other groups of people who inhabited modern Turkey.