Author Topic: PixInsight 1.7 — Codename "Starbuck"  (Read 22365 times)

Offline Philip de Louraille

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Re: PixInsight 1.7 — Codename "Starbuck"
« Reply #15 on: 2011 May 30 15:51:01 »
I got "Yellow Lead Duck". Much better but seriously off the point. A many, erh, a gigaton worth of thanks for this release. I know that I will save only in Project mode as my work is never ever finished.
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Re: PixInsight 1.7 — Codename "Starbuck"
« Reply #16 on: 2011 May 30 15:53:15 »
Does one need to download the update from the dist site as opposed to enjoy the auto-update functionality?

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Re: PixInsight 1.7 — Codename "Starbuck"
« Reply #17 on: 2011 May 30 16:33:43 »
I got mine from the distribution site. Downloading as I type.
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Re: PixInsight 1.7 — Codename "Starbuck"
« Reply #18 on: 2011 May 30 16:37:03 »
That is interesting. Just downloaded the 1.7 (PixInsight 01.07.00.0695 Starbuck (x86) © 2003-2011)  version for Mac 32-bit.
The creation date of the binary (after de-archiving) is: Dec 3, 2010. ????
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Re: PixInsight 1.7 — Codename "Starbuck"
« Reply #19 on: 2011 May 30 17:08:09 »
Time scale of software developers is strange ;)
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Re: PixInsight 1.7 — Codename "Starbuck"
« Reply #20 on: 2011 May 30 17:34:34 »
I don't have a problem downloading it, but why isn't available via the repository?
Or maybe it will be available later?

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Re: PixInsight 1.7 — Codename "Starbuck"
« Reply #21 on: 2011 May 30 17:38:15 »
Hi Rogelio,

The new version is almost completely different from 1.6.9 -just a few files remain the same as in the previous version, so an automatic update wouldn't make too much sense. On the other hand, it fixes some bugs in the update system that would prevent correct installation of PI 1.7 from PI 1.6.9.
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Re: PixInsight 1.7 — Codename "Starbuck"
« Reply #22 on: 2011 May 30 17:40:43 »
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The creation date of the binary (after de-archiving) is: Dec 3, 2010.

That's true :) That's the date when I created the application bundle (which is just a directory with a special structure on Mac OS X). I've reused the same bundle to build the final release on Mac OS X.

By the way, 1.7 fixes *lots* of bugs in both Mac versions. The 64-bit version is now much better and has a lot less of GUI glitches. Let me know how do you like it.
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Re: PixInsight 1.7 — Codename "Starbuck"
« Reply #23 on: 2011 May 31 02:16:48 »
Hi.

Just download new 64bit windows 1.7 , install it and got:
Registering target image 56 of 56
Loading target file:
C:/MO/RAW/2011.05/tulip/HA/32bit/tulip-011-HA-15m.fit-R.fits
*** PixInsight API Error: CreateImage(): Low-level API function error
API error code = 1:
Unknown error

(try to starregister some files).
drop down to 1.6.9? :)

P.S. Maybe wrong topic...?

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Re: PixInsight 1.7 — Codename "Starbuck"
« Reply #24 on: 2011 May 31 03:29:59 »
Hi,

This is a bug that I am fixing right now. Please refer to this thread.

Workaround: Please use the 32-bit Windows version to calibrate, register and integrate your images while I publish an update to the 64-bit version. Both 32-bit and 64-bit versions can be installed on the same machine without problems.
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Re: PixInsight 1.7 — Codename "Starbuck"
« Reply #25 on: 2011 May 31 07:45:58 »
Couple of notes/wishes, if you will:
1) if "codename" has been introduced for some reason then... why it's not mentioned on the initial "load screen" that simply says "Pixinsight Core 1.7"? "StarBuck" should be there, shouldn't it?
2) structure of "scripts" menu has been changed... Is it possible to have <All Scripts> item in a way we have <All Processes> for processes? Sometimes it's faster to look through long list with all entries instead of jumping through several branches in the menu tree.

Thanks a lot!

PS: GPU support... will it be in the list of main features planned for 1.8 general release?
Or could we expect it earlier? Thanks  O0

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Re: PixInsight 1.7 — Codename "Starbuck"
« Reply #26 on: 2011 May 31 17:28:50 »
I realize this was a huge undertaking but what happened to the help files or rather the associated screens with information about the tool? Version 1.69 had some but version 1.70 has none, nada. For those who have been whining about help files, this doesn't help. It's the single biggest complaint I hear from people who won't even download the trail unless they have a manual or help files regardless of what other resources they have available. Ray Gralak's comment to the announced new version was:

 "RE: [SBIG] OT: Announcement - PixInsight 1.7 released

Is there FULL documentation included? :-)

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Re: PixInsight 1.7 — Codename "Starbuck"
« Reply #27 on: 2011 May 31 19:40:59 »
I realize this was a huge undertaking but what happened to the help files or rather the associated screens with information about the tool? Version 1.69 had some but version 1.70 has none, nada.

True. While one always has to filter out "for fun" remarks from what are genuine comments and concerns, the help from the tools that was already done and present in 1.6.x is gone in 1.7. And that I wouldn't label it as an improvement.

Again, leaving aside disgruntling remarks regarding the documentation, at this point in the maturity of the project, at least newly developed tools should be released along with their corresponding documentation. I'm not going to take a shortcut here - Juan, you have gotten used to put formal organized documentation as a VERY LOW priority thing, and as much as this is your baby and you take it to wherever you want following whatever your own thinking decides to take it, I think it's about time (it was a while ago) you make a habit to at the very least, slow down in the release of a new version that comes with new tools, until their, at least basic documentation is released along with those new tools. You're already spending the time creating the text in the rather descriptive tooltips, and sometimes that and just a bit more is all it takes to at least get the doc page of a given tool started.

Let me say this... I much rather have the projects functionality live and working than if you had spent the time writing full docs for the whole application. Most people here probably feel the same. But I at least wouldn't have minded a bit of a wait if that's what it took to bring this application to the level of excellence that anyone would expect from a mature software like PixInsight. It seems as if it was really fun to develop a template/formatting framework for documentation, but then actually adding content to it was, well, boring and uninteresting... Thing is, even the most hardcore PixInsight's users will devour your documentation once it's written. Don't think it'd be useless or pointless. Nobody's asking for a quick fix to "learn PixInsight" here. At least I'm not and I believe I'm not alone.

I'll say it as I see it: you're very inconsistent with the release of organized documentation within the software. I suggest you either step up and get it done, or don't do it at all, and be clear about that, but this "bits and pieces" approach to me reflects poorly in the overall impression of what today is the best astroimage processing application on the galaxy by far, regardless of whether one must have that to become fluent in using the software or not.

Since you like programming so much, you could start by writing an internal tool to extract tooltip text and generate raw documents explaining the parameters that can then be fed to the documentation repository or something, as a starting point.  That's not probably what I'd do, but hey, whatever works.

And you know I tell you all this because "I love you man"...   8) (no, not THAT way)

As for the disgruntled comments, they'll continue to happen with or without documentation. That is not why the documentation should exists.

There it goes...





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Re: PixInsight 1.7 — Codename "Starbuck"
« Reply #28 on: 2011 June 01 03:19:59 »
I realize this was a huge undertaking but what happened to the help files or rather the associated screens with information about the tool?

Hi,

Just update the platform.


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Re: PixInsight 1.7 — Codename "Starbuck"
« Reply #29 on: 2011 June 01 03:36:09 »
I realize this was a huge undertaking but what happened to the help files or rather the associated screens with information about the tool?
Just update the platform.

It wasn't happening yesterday when I tried it.  It did now, thanks for adding the fix to the repository.