Author Topic: Flats creating orange background  (Read 782 times)

Offline Grierson

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Flats creating orange background
« on: 2019 April 02 11:34:01 »
Good evening from a total novice looking for some kind help. I have made a light box for taking flats with my ZWO294MCpro camera and SW 80ED 'scope. The light source for the box is a white electroluminescent panel. I have adjusted the exposure such that the RGB traces fall at the mid point of my ZWO ASIAIR histogram.
When I come to run the BatchPrepocessing script and after entering my Flats, Darks and Lights the background of the Master Light Binning file resulting is coloured bright orange. Normally when I have just processed my Light and Dark subs (without Flats) the background is green.
I can of course remove the background colour but I wonder if anyone can explain what I am doing wrong. Many thanks - John

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Re: Flats creating orange background
« Reply #1 on: 2019 April 02 15:03:42 »
Hi John,

You are not doing anything 'wrong' as such. Perhaps you could adjust your exposure times slightly higher - but it wouldn's make a huge difference.

Fundamentally, your EL panel is NOT producing 'white' light, at least not as far as your imager is concerned. But that alone, isn't really too much of an issue either. It would seem to be 'white enough' to do the job.

And the 'orange cast'? I always used Background Color Correction to get the 'neutral grey' that I wanted from my Master Image (after Crop and DBE, and before Color Calibration).

After that, it was a long way diwn my list of noise removal and range compression steps before I ever considered trying to enhance the colours that I knew would still be lurking somewhere in the depths of my image.

However, if you just want a rought idea of what your image contains, then just remember to unlink the sliders in the STF window before applying an STF to your image.

Hope this helps.
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Niall Saunders
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Re: Flats creating orange background
« Reply #2 on: 2019 April 02 20:57:00 »
I always used Background Color Correction to get the 'neutral grey' that I wanted from my Master Image (after Crop and DBE, and before Color Calibration).

Is Background Color Correction a Process or a Script? Not familiar with this, and, can't find it in PI.

Steve
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Re: Flats creating orange background
« Reply #3 on: 2019 April 02 21:39:22 »
BackgroundNeutralization is what niall meant... it is a process. set the thresholds just above the highest values you measure in the background.

rob

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Re: Flats creating orange background
« Reply #4 on: 2019 April 02 23:31:30 »
Many thanks Niall, very helpful. I now need to start to understand and use dynamic background extraction. - John

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Re: Flats creating orange background
« Reply #5 on: 2019 April 03 08:57:10 »
Sorry for the confusion - if I'm not using my PI machine, then it is easy (and not uncommon) for me to fotget the names of PixInsight Processes  :police:
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Niall Saunders
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Altair Astro GSO 10" f/8 Ritchey Chrétien CF OTA on EQ8 mount with homebrew 3D Balance and Pier
Moonfish ED80 APO & Celestron Omni XLT 120
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Re: Flats creating orange background
« Reply #6 on: 2019 April 04 09:07:49 »
Sorry for the confusion - if I'm not using my PI machine, then it is easy (and not uncommon) for me to fotget the names of PixInsight Processes  :police:

BackgroundNeutralization is what niall meant... it is a process. set the thresholds just above the highest values you measure in the background.

rob

Thanks to both of you. I'm familiar with BackgroundNeutralization, but, thought maybe there was another process I wasn't aware of.  ;)

Steve
Telescopes:  WO Star71 ii, ES ED102 CF
Camera:  Canon T3 (modified)
Filters:  IDAS LPS-D1, Triad Tri-Band, STC Duo-Narrowband
Mount:  CEM40 EC
Software:  BYEOS, PHD2, PixInsight

http://www.SteveKing.Pictures/