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Offline smorris81

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Question about mosaics.... need some help
« on: 2017 May 08 08:40:54 »
I've been trying to mosaic my image of the Milky Way but I find the more I edit the image with Pixinsight I start to bring up the areas where it was stitched. Could this be due to the preparation of my images?
All I've done is stacked each panel and then joined them together in a mosaic. I've used a dslr to capture my data and I haven't used any darks etc. Just stacked and merged (using a different program), is there a way of mosaics in pixinsight that would give me a better stitch?
I'm still fairly new to using Pixinsight and have much to learn, so any PixInsight Jedi out there would be appreciated or anyone that has had a similar issue to myself.

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Re: Question about mosaics.... need some help
« Reply #1 on: 2017 May 08 10:15:03 »
Hi There - and welcome to the PixInsight Forum!

PixInsight can handle mosaics 'natively', with tools such as the GradientMergeMosaic Process and the MosaicByCoordinates and MosaicPlanner Scripts - as well as the CatalogStarGenerator Script that can be used to create a 'background image' onto which you can align your mosaic.

There is also the StarAlignment Process (amd the DynamicAlignmnet Process) that can be used to align images, including those panels that will be used to build an overall mosaic image.

Be warned though - it will take you a little bit of time to get to know how all these processes and scripts actually work. However, the end result should be worth all the effort.

You might also want to re-think 'how' you acquire the image data. PixInsight doesn't need you, for example, to take 9 images, with three images being acquired and stacked for each 'panel', with a 33% overlap between panels. Instead, you could take the same nine images (in this example, as a 'row' of images) but with an 8/9ths overlap between panels. Even better would be to add an extra two images at the start position and an extra ywo at the end position to allow you to stack data from a full three images right across the whole mosaic. The ImageIntegration Process then has far more statistical data to work with for every pixel in the final mosaic. (And, obviously, in a 'perfect world' you would take far more images, with far smaller steps between panels).

The point I am making is that PixInsight does not limit you to 'one method' of dealing with your data - leaving you the ability to explore different methods that suit you and your requirements.

Hope this helps.
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Re: Question about mosaics.... need some help
« Reply #2 on: 2017 May 08 19:45:39 »
OMG there is a Pixinsight Jedi! hahaha

Thank you so much for that. I will have to look into these scripts and have a play. So much to pixinsight than meets the eye..... I have a long way to go in this journey and it sounds like the way I capture my data may change too.... Thanks.

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Re: Question about mosaics.... need some help
« Reply #3 on: 2017 May 09 00:28:16 »
and I haven't used any darks etc.

Does this mean you did not take flats either?

Looking at your image it looks like each panel has vignetting so this will prevent you getting a good result. The use of flats will even out the background making the seams a lot better.

Mike

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Re: Question about mosaics.... need some help
« Reply #4 on: 2017 May 09 04:14:50 »
Backround of the PI Jedi
The PixInsight Jedi is a very rare species, less common than the PixInsight Padawan, although the PixInsight Jedi Knight and the PixInsight Jedi Council Member are even more difficult to find. These species are easily identified by their rectangular eyes and the fact that they use PixInsight more as an Operating System than as an application within an OS. All members of the species can easily be tempted out of their lairs (which they refer to as "The Dark Side") by a plentiful supply of cookies.


Yes - you will find that the way you set out to acquire image data (and calibration data) will change as you learn more of this mysterious black art. But, feel free to either paddle at the edges of the ocean, or to throw yourself into the deepest waters - either way will give you new challenges and something to learn.

Personally, I am more interested in the process of 'learning' than the process of acquiring a 'pretty image' (after all, if all I want is a pretty image, the Internet is full of those). I like to view my images as 'pairs - an original 'raw' image (with minimal STF applied) side-by-side with my final processed image. That is what tells me I must be doing 'something' right  :D
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Re: Question about mosaics.... need some help
« Reply #5 on: 2017 May 09 05:00:48 »
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Backround of the PI Jedi
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... united by "The Force", an energy field created by all living things on the PixInsight platform.
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