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A programming genius
« on: 2018 May 04 01:27:57 »
Ladies and gentlemen, today I want to introduce you to someone very special: Dario Z*****c, also known as E3ddy, a programming genius who has achieved a remarkable worldwide hit: For the first time, PixInsight can be used freely without a license:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7isFF5Du_qk

Please, round of applause for this great creator and entrepreneur who has managed to change the landscape of astronomical image processing forever.

Seriously now, is this what we want? Do we really think that a project like PixInsight can exist and be actively developed without some economical compensation? Beyond monetary considerations, and irrespective of the quality and usefulness of the software, do you think that a single developer, who invests his life in a project like this, does not deserve some more respect?

If the astrophotography community wants software like PixInsight to stay alive, activities and attitudes like this one should be rejected and cornered with clarity and strength. At this moment I am forced to redesign and rewrite a large part of our license management system so that this attack does not continue harming us in future versions, at least for a while. This involves investing a great deal of time and effort, and it is tremendously discouraging for me because all that effort and time are not useful at all. Nothing of this is going to make PixInsight better. It will only serve to demoralize me and will make users have to wait more for nothing. So we will all lose. Is this really what we want?

Thank you for your time.
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Re: A programming genius
« Reply #1 on: 2018 May 04 02:13:54 »
Hello Juan,

In principle, this procedure is a criminal act. But quite independently, it is a disregard for the value of a commodity or, in this case, the intellectual achievement of a human being, your achievement.
If something is not rewarded according to its value, all the consequences that you have addressed occur.
For my part, I appreciate PixInsight very much and I am happy to reward this financially and thus not only provide for a financial basis of PI, but also express my appreciation for your intellectual achievement.
I hope that you can make the license so secure that in future such people will have no chance. Good luck

Gerhard

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Re: A programming genius
« Reply #2 on: 2018 May 04 02:33:48 »
Hi Juan,

this makes me sad. How can a person come up with the idea of putting time and effort into such a project? It is an act of infringement of copyright and I hope this will be accountable.

For me PixInsight is worth every cent (and more).

Bernd

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Re: A programming genius
« Reply #3 on: 2018 May 04 02:39:17 »
Hi Juan,

It's disappointing but, unfortunately, not surprising.  I would expect that anybody who is in the least serious about astro imaging would be happy to pay the very reasonable price for a legitimate copy.  It's a bargain compared to what we pay for the hardware!

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Re: A programming genius
« Reply #4 on: 2018 May 04 05:05:16 »
Hi Juan,

It's disappointing and annoying to see this.  I completely understand your frustration.

Apart from being illegal and immoral, do people really want to take the risk of installing software written by a hacker?  I certainly wouldn't.  Yes it might successfully circumvent PixInsight's licensing system but what else is it doing your machine?  What kinds of Trojans and viruses might be installed alongside it?  Is it worth the risk?  Not to me it isn't.

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Re: A programming genius
« Reply #5 on: 2018 May 04 07:39:39 »
Hi Juan

Well I'll say it plainly, this sucks. I guess if there is something positive to take away from this right now is after a month there are not that many comments about the video. I would guess you've contacted 'easybytez.com' and demanded a removal of the file based on IP and copyright and anything else you can think of. The unfortunate part is I don't think there is any method of getting Google to remove in a timely manner if at all.

Well we know where all your energies are for the foreseeable future.

Sorry for the added pain Juan!


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Re: A programming genius
« Reply #6 on: 2018 May 04 18:02:15 »
Juan,

Please submit a DMCA takedown request to Youtube to have the video removed:

https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2807622?hl=en

While this video will have some regrettable impact on your revenue, I think you will find that the vast majority of the astroimaging community recognize the value of PixInsight and are happy to pay for it.  PixInsight is on the short list of the most valuable software I have ever purchased.

Regards,

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Re: A programming genius
« Reply #7 on: 2018 May 04 21:29:42 »
Sorry to hear. You might want to consider removing the link to the video, even the entire thread, if you think there may be visitors to this forum who aren't yet PixInsight owners and who might be tempted to take advantage of this video. No reason to point more people to that link.

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Re: A programming genius
« Reply #8 on: 2018 May 04 23:05:43 »
Hi

sorry to see this and I am sure very concerning to you and as you say a waste off your valuable time

I don't recognise any of the abusers on there but will my eye out for them

I also left a suitable comment :)

Keep up the good work we do appreciate it

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Re: A programming genius
« Reply #9 on: 2018 May 05 00:55:03 »
hi,
This has unfortunately become common today, you have all our support, continue to offer us this wonderful tools that is Pixinsight.
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Re: A programming genius
« Reply #10 on: 2018 May 05 01:57:41 »
Thank you all so much for your support. I appreciate it very much, and it helps me to look for the strength I need to continue working.

I prefer to be able to visualize this type of problems, instead of knowing they are happening in places where i cannot access. If there is something positive in this case, I think it is the fact that the community can become really aware of how difficult and fragile is the development of professional software in such a small and complex market. For these reasons I have preferred not to take action to have this video deleted, at least not for now.

On the other hand, it does not make sense for us to take legal action against this 'genious', since the Spanish and European legislations are basically useless to protect us, and we lack the necessary means to maintain a litigation of these characteristics, which in the end would leave him laughing and us just with less time and money.

The fact that this is happening publicly in YouTube is really impressive in my opinion. This guy has no problem at all stealing us publicly, advertising himself, and even asking for a donation for his 'work'. I have managed to identify him relatively easily. I know his name, his Facebook and SoundCloud accounts, and even where he lives. Some people that have commented publicly on the video are participating with their real names, and I have identified them as trial license users. Along with the obvious fact that this guy is not a professional hacker (either he has a serious issue with his ego, or somebody of a higher level has helped him), this demonstrates that software piracy is being considered as something perfectly normal, and even valuable, within a—hopefully marginal—subset of the astrophotography community. What I ask is that these people and attitudes be cornered as they deserve. Not really to help PixInsight, but to protect astrophotography and its future development.
Juan Conejero
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Re: A programming genius
« Reply #11 on: 2018 May 05 04:18:05 »
Hey Juan, Well at least the video was accompanied by an equally brilliant musical soundtrack. :-(  All kidding aside, we are so sorry. We know how much work and passion you pour into your life's work. Trying to outsmart cybercriminals is a sad, albeit necessary part of modern life. As others have said, the astro-imaging community is largely comprised of very honorable people and I believe you will plug this leak with minimal damage. Our thanks, support, and empathy go out to you Juan! I would pursue removal of the video at minimum. Talk soon, be well, and again, my heart goes out to you for a quick solution.
Best always, Warren

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Re: A programming genius
« Reply #12 on: 2018 May 05 10:06:00 »
Juan,

This is very sad indeed. 

As many have mentioned the base of PixInsight users are serious astro amateurs that truly appreciate the value and effort that has been spent on this great program. 

I hope that YouTube shuts down that video thus minimizing the damage that individual has caused. 

Please rest assured that we are as frustrated as you are because we know that instead of improvements on the program you now will be working on generating a patch that doesn't really add any value to the core program itself. 

And don't fret, you have our support.

Sincerely,

Isaac Cruz

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Re: A programming genius
« Reply #13 on: 2018 May 05 10:22:34 »
I understand the natural response of wanting to put a lot of time in hardening the licensing mechanism, but it is a battle you cannot really win. Most certainly you should make some changes now, but I suspect that people stealing software with such hacks would never have bought it in the first place. I have reported the video, hopefully that will help.
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Re: A programming genius
« Reply #14 on: 2018 May 10 01:13:06 »
A good campaign of thumbs down can throw it into oblivion.