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Title: I am in trouble with this one.... need some help!
Post by: Sedat on 2012 April 01 06:44:34
Hi folks,

Could you please give me a hand and process my data to show what can possibly be done with it ? I will really appreciate this.

https://rapidshare.com/files/1051544027 ... LA_HDR.rar (https://rapidshare.com/files/1051544027 ... LA_HDR.rar) (64 bit fits)
https://rapidshare.com/files/3163770842 ... LA_HDR.zip[/url] (16 bit tiff)[url]

I am a relatively new PI user and still have a long way to go to be able to use it properly. I must confess however, contrary to everyone's belief in the PS camp, my progress is much speedier and more fruitful compared to my PS efforts. Kudos to the developers and supporters once again.

I still have some problems with DBE, color calibration and noise reduction. For some reason MMT is not very effective on my pictures. I am suspecting the culprit to be my shooting with a DSLR. There must be an inherent noise due to the missing pixels, blocked by CFA. Whenever I apply MMT ot ATWT the background doesn't look silky smooth at all. I am sure I must be pushing some wrong buttons at some stages as well.

I have been playing with this Bode's Nebula data for the last couple of weeks. The stack I  share with you is an HDR composite of the following:

Scope: FSQ106ED @f/5
Mount: Vixen New Atlux with Starbook
Focuser:
Camera: Canon 550D - Hutech modified
Filters: None
Guide: Vixen A80SS, Orion SSAG

Exposures:
First set: 24x360 second Light @ISO1600, Master Darks, Bias, 24x Flats, 24x Flat Darks
Second set: 11x360 second Light @ISO800, Master Darks, Bias, 24x Flats, 24x Flat Darks
Shooting Date: 26.02.2012
Orientation:
Acquisition: BackyardEOS
Guiding: PHD
Stacking: Images Plus
Processing: Pixinsight
Location: Marmaris - Turkey
SQM: 21
Temperature: 9 C

This one is a quick process of the ISO1600 stack

(http://astrofotografi.net/gallery/d/5389-3/BODES_NEBULA_LIGHT_300sec_1600iso_NO_FILTER_PI_PS.jpg)

and this is the result of the HDR composite...There are many errors I know but I guess I need a break and go back to basics before further attempts.
(http://astrofotografi.net/gallery/d/5533-3/BODES+NEBULA_HDR_PI.jpg)

Can you see my White Flag waving ? :)

Thanks for reading and your help.

Cheers

Sedat
Title: Re: I am in trouble with this one.... need some help!
Post by: Sedat on 2012 April 02 01:27:54

In case you had difficulties with Rapidshare services, I have uploaded the files to Pixinsight file server as well;

Fits file --> http://endor.uv.es//data/public/7b488b41ae5dfe28fe5bfc0c69561efc.php?lang=en (http://endor.uv.es//data/public/7b488b41ae5dfe28fe5bfc0c69561efc.php?lang=en)
Tiff file --> http://endor.uv.es//data/public/c9d49969a32ff239655770cd07687d72.php?lang=en (http://endor.uv.es//data/public/c9d49969a32ff239655770cd07687d72.php?lang=en)

Hope some of you can find the time to fiddle with this data.

Best wishes

Sedat
Title: Re: I am in trouble with this one.... need some help!
Post by: ruediger on 2012 April 02 03:16:50
First set: 24x360 second Light @ISO1600, Master Darks, Bias, 24x Flats, 24x Flat Darks
Second set: 11x360 second Light @ISO800, Master Darks, Bias, 24x Flats, 24x Flat Darks
[...]
and this is the result of the HDR composite...
I did not look into your data yet, but I'm curious to know, why you want to make a HDR from the two sets that basically carry the same information. An ISO 1600 lightframe is just a up-scaled version of an ISO 800 one and it should be much easier for you to throw all lights into one stack and process them together.

What was your intention in changing the ISO-settings?

Rüdiger
Title: Re: I am in trouble with this one.... need some help!
Post by: Sedat on 2012 April 02 03:37:09
Hi Rüdiger,

At the time of shooting, it suddenly occurred to me  that 6 minutes sub exposure might have been to much at ISO 1600 which would lead to saturated galaxy core and I switched to ISO 800 for the rest of the session. When I shoot with my C11 Edge+Hyperstar, this can easily happen. This FSQ belongs to a friend and it was my second attempt to shoot with it. So I am not very familiar with its outcome yet. There was another scope mounted on the side bar for testing and comparison purposes, coupled to my Canon 450D camera. Due to this, I was not able to dither properly. I believe some of the problems are related to this.

At the first attempt, with the help of dithering, I managed to obtain a nice Leo Trio:

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7063/6814840324_67ff978be5.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bilgebay/6814840324/)
Leo_Triplet2 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bilgebay/6814840324/) by bilgebay (http://www.flickr.com/people/bilgebay/), on Flickr

If you are suggesting that I should stack the outcome of the 2 sets via Pixel Math or any other tools, I can do that too. Please let me know.

Thanks for taking the time to look at my data.

Sedat
Title: Re: I am in trouble with this one.... need some help!
Post by: ruediger on 2012 April 02 04:57:22
If you are suggesting that I should stack the outcome of the 2 sets via Pixel Math or any other tools, I can do that too. Please let me know.
.. ImageIntegration needs a minimum of three input files and therefore you tried HDRComposition.

My suggestion is, that you take all your available 35 registered files (24 with ISO 1600 and 11 with ISO 800) and put all of them again into ImageIntegration with noise evaluation as weighting method. You can work with a less restrictive outlier restriction and might get a slightly better overall result than avaraging the outcome of the two sets with PixelMath.

Rüdiger
Title: Re: I am in trouble with this one.... need some help!
Post by: Sedat on 2012 April 02 05:16:03
Hi Rüdiger,

I am not very comfortable with PI image integration yet. I can use Images Plus to do the integration of these 2 files.

When I mix the ISO800 images with the ISO1600 ones, what happens to Dark frame matching ? Can I work without Dark frames, is this possible in PI ?

Sorry for too many questions but I am a newbie indeed.
Title: Re: I am in trouble with this one.... need some help!
Post by: ruediger on 2012 April 02 07:39:12
Hi Sedat,

you integrated the two sets with ImagesPlus and I assume you have different MasterDarks for ISO800 and ISO1600? You can use them in PI also. After calibrating and registering the two ISO sets, you can throw all files together in one ImageIntegration process, even if exposure times are different. The noise weighting will take care of proper integration weights.

If you really want to try PixelMath to combine the two results you already have, you should linear fit them against each other and then try something like "0.6 * set1 + 0.4 * set2". The optimal factors however will depend of a noise analysis of the two images and before I say something wrong of how to compute them, I will leave the computation up to you :-)

When trying to download your files, I only get "Cannot find file!".

I'm really interested to have a look at your files, because I've the same problems like you to smooth out the background (using a spectrum modified Canon EOS 500D). So far I've found no working noise reduction process at linear stage, but after stretching the data both ATWT k-sigma noise thresholding (supported by inverse luminance mask) and ACDNR works good.

Rüdiger
Title: Re: I am in trouble with this one.... need some help!
Post by: Sedat on 2012 April 02 11:08:26
Quote
When trying to download your files, I only get "Cannot find file!".

Oh! Either I am doing something wrong or the system is not up and running yet to produce the correct link. I have tried to download the files myself and got the same response.

The files are under Forum Shared Files, within the folder named "Sedat". You can reach the files at http://endor.uv.es/

I hope you can download the files this time. If not, please try the rapidshare links I gave in my original post.

Cheers,

Sedat
Title: Re: I am in trouble with this one.... need some help!
Post by: Sedat on 2012 April 03 11:27:16
Any volunteers ? No one ?  ??? ::)
Title: Re: I am in trouble with this one.... need some help!
Post by: ruediger on 2012 April 03 22:44:44
Any volunteers ? No one ?  ??? ::)
I'll have a look this weekend.
Rüdiger
Title: Re: I am in trouble with this one.... need some help!
Post by: ruediger on 2012 April 06 03:52:50
I still have some problems with DBE, color calibration and noise reduction.
Hi Sedat,
finally I downloaded the HDR fits and tried on my own. Your unprocessed DSLR data looks as ugly as mine, so I'm sure now, that I make no major mistake in the calibration process :)

DBE is not necessary with this data. I started with ABE and decreasing function degree from 4 to 2, always inspecting the modelled background. I applied ABE with function level 2 and the outcome looked very natural to me. DBE with automatically placed background points very easily produces wrong looking background models.

My processing steps:
- DynamicCrop (some pixels at each side)
- SampleFormatConversion (from 64Bit float to 32 Bit Integer), only to speed up processing on my notebook and keep swap files small
- ABE
- BackgroundNeutralization (Black preview covering nearly the upper third of the picture without the galaxies)
- Colorcalibration (white preview covering M81 and surrounding)
- Deconvolution (following Manuel's tutorial, but using artificial PSF)
- HistogramTransformation
- Denoising with AtrousWaveletTransformation supported with Luminance Mask:
   - Dyadic 8 Levels Gaussian(7), k-sigma noise thresholding, Threshold 10.0, Amount 0.8, Soft thresholding, Multiresolution Support

I have the same problem like you that most of the other denoising techniques tend to "clump" together noise to larger structures.
Maybe someone else can try noise reduction on this data?

- SCNR
- ColourSaturation. I used the luminance as mask, but applied pixel math "max(0.1,$T)" to it to really protect the background from getting color
- UnsharpMask, same maske like before
- CurvesTransformation to bring down background level somewhat

I applied no HDRWT because I didn't like the look.

There is still residual noise in the picture, but the transition from background towards the galaxy looks smooth. Your leo triplet picture in highres has an artificial smooth background, but your galaxy cores are noisy and oversaturated

Inside the bright parts of the galaxy cores ringing artefacts are visible, that come from deconvolution. I don't know how to avoid them. I see similar rings in the Centaurus A pic presented here, so I'm not alone with this. Any tips?

Hope you like my result somewhat. I tried not too overcook it.

Regards,
Rüdiger
Title: Re: I am in trouble with this one.... need some help!
Post by: Sedat on 2012 April 18 06:00:33
Hi Rüdiger,

Thank you for taking the time to work on my data. I guess I was expecting too much from this data :) My flats are not perfect I believe. This results in that terrible looking data. Denoising methods are not helping as you say.

Our friends are all CCD guys I think and they don't want to spend their times with the worries of us, the poor mortals :) Maybe we should move to CCD cameras :)
Title: Re: I am in trouble with this one.... need some help!
Post by: Alejandro Tombolini on 2012 April 18 06:25:05
Hi Sedat,
I have procesed your image and it was very interesting. Let me time until the end of next week and i will post it, (i do not have the data with me).
Saludos, Alejandro.
Title: Re: I am in trouble with this one.... need some help!
Post by: ruediger on 2012 April 18 06:32:38
Hi Sedat,

what did you expect from the data? There was e.g. not the slightest hint of the flux nebula visible, even when terribly overstretching the image. Has anybody made much better/deeper pictures with cooled CCDs at the same day?
There are many good DSLR astropics out there, M81/M82 e.g. here (not mine): http://www.ried-sternwarte.de/deep-sky.html (http://www.ried-sternwarte.de/deep-sky.html), showing that optimal weather conditions, dark sites and processing skills are even more important than just spending money for an expensive CCD  :)

Regards
Rüdiger
Title: Re: I am in trouble with this one.... need some help!
Post by: Sedat on 2012 April 18 12:29:54
Hi Rüdiger,

Well, maybe it's only me but I am seeing hints of the flux. Please compare my version below , however ugly looking it is, with Harry's image. I am sure you will see what I mean. If I had one tenth of Harry's skill I am sure I would make mine much better.

(http://astrofotografi.net/gallery/d/5533-3/BODES+NEBULA_HDR_PI.jpg)

and this is Harry's

http://www.harrysastroshed.com/Image%20html/m81%20and%20m82.html

Cheers

Sedat

Title: Re: I am in trouble with this one.... need some help!
Post by: Sedat on 2012 April 18 12:34:52
Ola Alejandro,

Thank you for processing my data.

Take your time please.

Best wishes

Sedat
Title: Re: I am in trouble with this one.... need some help!
Post by: Harry page on 2012 April 18 12:41:21
Hi

I see the download files have gone , can you upload them to the pixinsight host  :D

Harry
Title: Re: I am in trouble with this one.... need some help!
Post by: Sedat on 2012 April 18 12:49:25
Woooohooo! I guess I said the magic words :)

Hi Harry,

Thanks for chiming in.

I have just checked and saw the files are still there @ http://endor.uv.es/ under "forum shared files/Sedat"

Please let me know if this works for you.

Cheers

Sedat
Title: Re: I am in trouble with this one.... need some help!
Post by: ruediger on 2012 April 18 13:10:14
Well, maybe it's only me but I am seeing hints of the flux. Please compare my version below
I looked again at your input file and you're right, there is indication of the flux nebula. Maybe I didn't spend enough time on processing (focusing only on the mentioned problems of DBE, color calibration, denoising), I'm very curious now to see how the processed pic from Alejandro will loke like :)
Title: Re: I am in trouble with this one.... need some help!
Post by: burbs on 2012 April 18 19:00:56
The rapidshare links do not work and when I try the PI server it says I need a login name and password.

How do I locate and access the files on the PI server?

EDIT: I just noticed how to sign up and an email has been sent off, I'm just waiting on confirmation and then I'll have a go with your data.
Title: Re: I am in trouble with this one.... need some help!
Post by: Sedat on 2012 April 20 06:15:53
Were you able to download the files ? Please let me know.
Title: Re: I am in trouble with this one.... need some help!
Post by: burbs on 2012 April 20 19:14:12
Yes I was able to download your image and I'm having a look at in now.  I've had to convert it to 32bit because my 2GB of RAM just can handle processing a 400MB image file.

I'll try and post my interpretation of your data sometimes this weekend (I'm hoping to get some dark skies depending on the weather, so it may take a few days).
Title: Re: I am in trouble with this one.... need some help!
Post by: Lex on 2012 April 25 12:25:18
Hi Sedat,

I saw this post and I really was interested in processing some DSLR data again.
Unfortunately I can't find a valid download link among those you have assigned?
Are the links down? Perhaps pleas PM me the UN and PW for the PI server..

Thanks
Title: Re: I am in trouble with this one.... need some help!
Post by: Sedat on 2012 April 25 16:24:16
Hi Lex,

Thank you for willing to take the time to work on my data.

Currently, I am in the US for NEAIC and NEAF and I don't have the un and pw information with me. Could you please send an email to Juan so that he can give access to you for the file sharing site.

Thank you again.

Sedat
Title: Re: I am in trouble with this one.... need some help!
Post by: Alejandro Tombolini on 2012 April 27 15:51:56
Hi Sedat, this my attempt

First a small crop to eliminate black borders
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-2-4Elh5T59I/T5sEj0aT28I/AAAAAAAAAOY/kYWzLAamPJg/s1600/Screenshot+at+2012-04-26+22:44:39.png)


HE let you see what happens in background. There are gradients and vertical lines.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-55-CBcGMbho/T5sFKrbk9DI/AAAAAAAAAOo/p91rMaAgjW4/s1600/Screenshot+at+2012-04-26+22:46:08.png)


ABE
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-xx9R1JDLp0k/T5sFWaos_eI/AAAAAAAAAOw/Essd3zEPPS4/s1600/Screenshot+at+2012-04-26+22:47:55.png)


DBE
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-yNADdxDryaU/T5sFqosqPPI/AAAAAAAAAO4/YtikLspjCCA/s1600/Screenshot+at+2012-04-26+22:51:54.png)


There are still vertical lines
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ephuB6jd0KE/T5sF8jmwP1I/AAAAAAAAAPA/6Ktzd9VY41U/s1600/Screenshot+at+2012-04-26+22:57:04.png)


For vertical lines rotate 90º and apply CBR 
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-D66GRhJHUYk/T5sGKg4FObI/AAAAAAAAAPI/wKUQ8wCV_JE/s1600/Screenshot+at+2012-04-26+22:59:33.png)


Rotate 90º back and new DBE
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-t-NZhoJYm0k/T5sGa9yjE8I/AAAAAAAAAPQ/tM1DijH0ae0/s1600/Screenshot+at+2012-04-26+23:00:22.png)


Whit AberrationInspector create a new image to be used as Reference image in BN
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tB-Flpv97dE/T5sGpxjk_9I/AAAAAAAAAPY/QtmeyNizCdU/s1600/Screenshot+at+2012-04-26+23:02:51.png)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-KsWqvrguzmU/T5sG3mfa_bI/AAAAAAAAAPg/n_scqWapX2w/s1600/Screenshot+at+2012-04-26+23:03:47.png)


With AberrationInpector create a new image to be used as Reference image in CC and a preview of the galaxy as Reference image
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-MHhJw2em2BQ/T5sHM3Bjr1I/AAAAAAAAAPo/DkxQMQMNEbw/s1600/Screenshot+at+2012-04-26+23:07:09.png)


Generate a PSF and a Star Mask to be used in Deconvolution, apply protecting stars with star mask.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-aJqUMqbWSFs/T5sHfOMkKlI/AAAAAAAAAPw/iRhS4Xre0dA/s1600/Screenshot+at+2012-04-26+23:11:25.png)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-T-SB96qDvDo/T5sHktkp5aI/AAAAAAAAAP4/Rg5Ft1DSj6g/s1600/Screenshot+at+2012-04-26+23:15:24.png)


HT
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-uJkDEKepB8I/T5sHxxhab8I/AAAAAAAAAQA/VQmLvcjRjCs/s1600/Screenshot+at+2012-04-26+23:38:15.png)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-13royVrEfYg/T5sH9zfvc9I/AAAAAAAAAQI/pWnhEMtatdI/s1600/Screenshot+at+2012-04-26+23:39:12.png)


Generate a LMask
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-V9y6E8bofXk/T5sIIzFzOPI/AAAAAAAAAQQ/HgTpg1xZFJU/s1600/Screenshot+at+2012-04-26+23:41:12.png)


Apply SCNR (without mask)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ADckgyNvmVU/T5sIV03kiXI/AAAAAAAAAQY/mQAEjnBcTZ4/s1600/Screenshot+at+2012-04-26+23:41:58.png)


Apply ACDNR to Chrominance (without mask)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-lA3wEr1_JFA/T5sIYyX4H2I/AAAAAAAAAQg/MsRwpwDVYL8/s1600/Screenshot+at+2012-04-26+23:46:02.png)


ColorSaturation with LMask protecting background
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/--CMsu3P5TyU/T5sIhMCJM6I/AAAAAAAAAQo/hBAenWLWPqc/s1600/Screenshot+at+2012-04-26+23:49:33.png)


HDRMT
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-VLGdHzRFkAg/T5sIpzXtfwI/AAAAAAAAAQw/fRzs3btKpP4/s1600/Screenshot+at+2012-04-26+23:51:18.png)


HDRMT
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Y7-3XTWurCg/T5sIuElyWrI/AAAAAAAAAQ4/BA188ik2kR4/s1600/Screenshot+at+2012-04-26+23:52:08.png)


New starmask to be used with MMT
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-SNvViHja6aw/T5sI9Sc_sOI/AAAAAAAAARA/V4gGVdI3zJ4/s1600/Screenshot+at+2012-04-26+23:52:44.pngv)


MMT protecting stars with starmask
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6HjYRX-OIpM/T5sJDzovZ0I/AAAAAAAAARI/a3Xg3M5Oufc/s1600/Screenshot+at+2012-04-26+23:55:49.png)


CT
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wuyAFOjxUnU/T5sJM_bQh6I/AAAAAAAAARQ/5iLjOrkOxzQ/s1600/Screenshot+at+2012-04-26+23:58:08.png)


CT protecting background with Blue channel
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-87Tw43o1o3k/T5sJXZzUxwI/AAAAAAAAARY/n2U_EsL89Q0/s1600/Screenshot+at+2012-04-27+00:02:50.png)


HT
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-PcJnrSBYV1U/T5sJimqXb_I/AAAAAAAAARg/N84ZK9F-92M/s1600/Screenshot+at+2012-04-27+00:03:07.png)


MMT
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-D6FN0rVJkQc/T5sJmWA9MfI/AAAAAAAAARo/qbnfxlY9yf0/s1600/Screenshot+at+2012-04-27+00:04:24.png)


Final image:
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-dcSSyWGcDUM/T5sZ7L-eycI/AAAAAAAAAR0/0cqC1LhDmUA/s1600/final1600.jpg)

Full image:http://endor.uv.es//data/public/ce7867e95bfd2f127f952513eba96932.php?lang=en
 (ftp://endor.uv.es//data/public/ce7867e95bfd2f127f952513eba96932.php?lang=en)
Title: Re: I am in trouble with this one.... need some help!
Post by: Lex on 2012 April 27 23:58:03
Alejandro,

Wow that's a nicely visulaized workflow with a very nice Endresult  :D
Why did you only ACDNR on your Chrominance? Is there a reason for it because I saw this already several times in peoples processing..

Nice
Title: Re: I am in trouble with this one.... need some help!
Post by: Alejandro Tombolini on 2012 April 28 05:50:00
Hi Lex, good to know the work-flow is easy to visualize.

When there is only background, without nebulosity, I try to use noise reduction tools as less as possible. In this case chrominance noise is important and after saturation would be even more evident but ligthness noise seemed to be well.

Saludos. Alejandro.
Title: Re: I am in trouble with this one.... need some help!
Post by: cs_pixinsight on 2012 April 30 11:33:23
Alejandro, WOW!  This is a great tutorial only rivaled by the ones Juan/Pixinsight team creates.  It would be terrific to have more reference processing tutorials like this one, but I know it takes quite a bit of time to make something of this quality.

Thank you for taking the time to produce this for everyone on the forum.

Craig
Title: Re: I am in trouble with this one.... need some help!
Post by: Lex on 2012 April 30 12:40:41
Alejandro,

Thanks, it is quiet clear that there is no need to "denoise" a simple background without nebulosity... And MMT does a great job in noise reduction but for me it stays a mystery because I really am not comfortable to figure out the different settings  ???
Title: Re: I am in trouble with this one.... need some help!
Post by: Alejandro Tombolini on 2012 May 02 18:52:01
Thank you Craig, as you said it takes time but is always a pleasure to process images.  ;)
Lex I will try your image (it will be my first time with ccd images) ???

Saludos. Alejandro
Title: Re: I am in trouble with this one.... need some help!
Post by: Lex on 2012 May 03 03:53:33
Hi,

Thanks for wanting to give it a try Alejandro; as you have an account on the server you will see my files under LEX/M51/L,R,G and B files...

Unfortunately I posted some links to the shared files on endor but they do not work?!
It is already the third time that I had problems with sharing/dwnld . Finally i asked Juan to create me an account and now I am able to check out all the Forum shared files.
What about sharing with a "non-member" of the PI file server --> does this work; if yes how?
I think I am doing something wrong perhaps... I shared the LRGB fits one by one, copied the links and integrated them in my post.
After activating the link the download icon pops up; click on it and a " file not found " message as result??  ???

This also happened when I tried to download Sedat's Files BTW...

Thanks
Title: Re: I am in trouble with this one.... need some help!
Post by: cs_pixinsight on 2012 May 03 12:51:08
Alejandro, I looked at this processing workflow a bit closer last night and noticed you used a process called Histogram Equalization.  I couldn't find it in the process or scripts menus, so I'm wondering if this a custom script that I need to grab from the forum or something you created for your personal use?

Craig
Title: Re: I am in trouble with this one.... need some help!
Post by: Alejandro Tombolini on 2012 May 03 14:00:45
Hi Craig,

Histogram Equalization is one of the Carlos Milovic's modules that you can download from: http://pixinsight.com/forum/index.php?topic=2275.msg15008#msg15008

Save it in bin folder and install from Process>Modules>install Modules

Regards, Alejandro.
Title: Re: I am in trouble with this one.... need some help!
Post by: cs_pixinsight on 2012 May 03 14:42:00
Ahh, I should have checked out that sticky post a while ago. 

Thanks for the help on this,
Craig