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Offline TobiasLindemann

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Use decon for bad adjusted telescope?
« on: 2014 April 18 11:46:17 »
Hi there,

the last days I had a look at the pictures of a friend. Obviously his telescope is very bad adjusted, so the stars are not round at all.


So I had a try with deconvolution to get the stars sharper and more round.


As you see, there is some sharpening-effect in the nebula visible, but there is no much difference in the stars. (The image is still linear)

So I had another try with a starmask and MorpholocicalTransformation.
First I applied a starmask to the image:

Then I tried to do the MT:

The effect is also not what I expected

My question is, what I am doing wrong or is there any other better method to gain better stars?
If you wish, you can download the linear fits image at the following link:
http://www.tracking-station.de/heller/integrationHa2.fit

Greetings
Tobias

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Re: Use decon for bad adjusted telescope?
« Reply #1 on: 2014 April 19 01:51:27 »
It looks to me like the image is out of focus, so you won't be able to repair the stars.
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Re: Use decon for bad adjusted telescope?
« Reply #2 on: 2014 April 19 07:09:31 »
Hi Zocky,
yes it looks like, but unfortunately it is not out of focus. But even if it is out of focus, I think there must be a way to repair the stars.

Tobias

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Re: Use decon for bad adjusted telescope?
« Reply #3 on: 2014 April 23 03:33:48 »
Has nowbody an idea?

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Re: Use decon for bad adjusted telescope?
« Reply #4 on: 2014 April 23 04:41:12 »
Hi Zocky,
yes it looks like, but unfortunately it is not out of focus. But even if it is out of focus, I think there must be a way to repair the stars.

Tobias
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Re: Use decon for bad adjusted telescope?
« Reply #5 on: 2014 April 23 04:58:40 »
ok, this makes sense, thank you for your answer  :)
Unfortunately I can´t fix the problem by myself, because it is not my telescope. 

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Re: Use decon for bad adjusted telescope?
« Reply #6 on: 2014 April 23 10:09:56 »
Hi Tobias,

Try MorphologicalTransformation with similar parameter to this example
A good mask here is very important.

Saludos, Alejandro.

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Re: Use decon for bad adjusted telescope?
« Reply #7 on: 2014 April 24 05:59:34 »
Hi Alejandro,

thank you for your tip  :). Unfortunately it seems not to work on on that image.

Tobias

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Re: Use decon for bad adjusted telescope?
« Reply #8 on: 2014 April 25 13:16:40 »
Problem is stars are not with same distortion over whole field... so star model cannot correct (one size does not fit all).  This may be a collimation problem with your friend's scope... I speak from experience just fixing my Tak 180ED.  This is the corrected image but i does not cut off all the tails... tails are different top to bottom. 
« Last Edit: 2014 April 25 14:36:14 by jerryyyyy »
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