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Offline Mark de Regt

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Looking for simple video of full workflow
« on: 2013 September 03 10:19:27 »
Hi,

I am hoping to move from CCDStack to PisInsight (for its apparently superior image alignment ability).

But I'm really put off by the completely non-intuitive UI. 

I'm looking for a simple video of someone going from a whole bunch of raw files (including master flats, darks and bias), to an LRGB image, going through calibration, alignment, data rejection, image combining, making the RGB and applying the luminance layer.

Is there such a thing?

I certainly will want to learn the more advanced features of PI as I move along the learning curve, but I really want to start simple, and I have so far failed to find such a thing.

Thanks!

Mark

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Re: Looking for simple video of full workflow
« Reply #1 on: 2013 September 03 10:32:10 »
Hi Mark,

Have you tried "Harry's Astro Shed"?

http://www.harrysastroshed.com/

Click on "Video Tutorials" and "PixInsight user guide" links at top.

For a fee, Warren Keller's video tutorials are also excellent.

http://www.ip4ap.com/pixinsight.htm

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Offline Mark de Regt

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Re: Looking for simple video of full workflow
« Reply #2 on: 2013 September 03 13:48:43 »
I'll look at "Harry's Astro Shed"; thanks!

Yes, I have Warren Keller's video (the first one), but it's not easy for me to get through (too much detail; goes too slowly for my poor feeble, quirky mind).  I'm looking for something that, in 10 or 15 minutes goes through all the major steps.

Mark

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Re: Looking for simple video of full workflow
« Reply #3 on: 2013 September 03 13:49:58 »
Hi Mark
As Peter says, Harry's Astroshed is a good starting place. The batch preprocessing script is one you'll find particularly useful i think http://www.harrysastroshed.com/pixinsighthome.html
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Re: Looking for simple video of full workflow
« Reply #4 on: 2013 September 04 07:07:39 »
Harry's stuff has been around a while and is very nice and, best of all, free. I do personally prefer Warren's, however. The fact that he does go slow is an asset, IMHO, as it allows stupid folks like me to absorb it better.

I found that it helped greatly to slowly put together my own  tutorial as I watch the videos, complete with screen captures using my own images. That not only brings it home for me but gives me a reference to go back to as I (inevitably) forget things. I can also update and tweak my tutorial as I gain more knowledge or new features are added. This takes a lot of time but there is no fast way to learn this program, at least not if you want good results. Probably true of most things but even more so with PI.

I also did a workflow diagram but workflow diagrams can only be a rough guide with PI as it depends a great deal on the image and it's characteristics and issues.

No, don't ask me to share these as they are heavily based on Warren's work so would not be fair to him, besides, as mentioned above, doing them was way more useful than if someone had just given them to me.

In fact, I have lots of data from this summer but have held off processing until I finish Warren's videos and my tutorial. I expect to get to that soon but am also involved it a long overdue redo on my webpage. Too much stuff, too little time!
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Re: Looking for simple video of full workflow
« Reply #5 on: 2013 September 04 07:36:43 »
I fully agree with CCD-PIX.

I too purchased Warren's tutorials. I too will make a sort of standard workflow.
I also have no problem with the tempo of the tutorials. Better slow and precise that quick and dirty.

The best way is to practice and practice. And read these forums !

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Re: Looking for simple video of full workflow
« Reply #6 on: 2013 September 04 11:13:37 »
I have Warren's DVD and have also downloaded most of Harry's videos. I've watched all of that at least once.

I found a crib sheet that I've been using recently, which I believe has really helped me climb the curve (along with the videos). It was created by "quantumac", largely based on Harry's videos. It's in this thread: http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/4600217/Main/4591530

It's light on the details and doesn't cover all situations (e.g. his Color Calibration section assumes an image that has a good white balance object in the center of it, which mine didn't, so I had to turn on Structure Detection and use the whole image as a white reference), but again it's been helpful in if nothing else remembering the general order of scripts/processes to use and starting points for the settings you need to worry about.

I don't generally post my images in forums but as an example, those notes were heavily used in making this narrowband image of M16 last weekend, which I'm pretty happy with as my first NB processing effort: http://www.flickr.com/photos/46580576@N07/9631540100/lightbox/

good luck,

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Re: Looking for simple video of full workflow
« Reply #7 on: 2013 September 04 13:08:29 »
Harry's stuff has been around a while and is very nice and, best of all, free. I do personally prefer Warren's, however. The fact that he does go slow is an asset, IMHO, as it allows stupid folks like me to absorb it better.


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Re: Looking for simple video of full workflow
« Reply #8 on: 2013 September 04 14:09:04 »
Harry's stuff has been around a while and is very nice and, best of all, free. I do personally prefer Warren's, however. The fact that he does go slow is an asset, IMHO, as it allows stupid folks like me to absorb it better.


Oh what it is to get old and be replaced  ;D

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Re: Looking for simple video of full workflow
« Reply #9 on: 2013 September 04 16:02:39 »
Harry,

When people advised me to look at your videos I didn't know I would get hooked on PI because of them.
It were your tutorials that gave me a impressive first look on PI and how to use it.
They are imho in no way old or outdated.

I find it interesting to compare your workflow to the others, and use the one that most fits my images.

Keep up the good work !

Eddy

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Re: Looking for simple video of full workflow
« Reply #10 on: 2013 October 29 04:28:02 »
Mark,

If it helps, here is my latest cribsheet I have been compiling.  Harry (and others) get all the credit, I am just a scribe to the great work of others.  Note due to posting restrictions its in PDF but I would be happy to supply a Word version.  Just drop me an email note.

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Re: Looking for simple video of full workflow
« Reply #11 on: 2014 February 06 02:52:54 »
Mark,

If it helps, here is my latest cribsheet I have been compiling.  Harry (and others) get all the credit, I am just a scribe to the great work of others.  Note due to posting restrictions its in PDF but I would be happy to supply a Word version.  Just drop me an email note.

Jim

Thank you!

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Re: Looking for simple video of full workflow
« Reply #12 on: 2014 February 06 08:38:15 »
I agree.  Thank You!
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Re: Looking for simple video of full workflow
« Reply #13 on: 2014 February 06 17:40:31 »
Glad you found it useful :D

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Re: Looking for simple video of full workflow
« Reply #14 on: 2014 February 09 05:33:54 »
Yes thanks Jim, having a few teething problems with pixinsight but it is really great that people like yourself do the community a great service and that goes to "stig" aka Harry..............brilliant guys  :cheesy: :cheesy: