Author Topic: User ID/password recovery  (Read 6655 times)

Offline shurik

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User ID/password recovery
« on: 2011 July 14 20:33:44 »
Hi, I would like to update my 1.5 version to the current one, but its been a while since I ve used my account , I don't remember my user ID/password, how do I recover those?  thank you, Alex

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Re: User ID/password recovery
« Reply #1 on: 2011 July 14 20:34:46 »
send email to support@pixinsight.com and save your username/password in something like KeePass.
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Re: User ID/password recovery
« Reply #2 on: 2011 July 14 22:03:14 »
A "Forgot my password" link next to the sign-in box might be in order. Even if that just sends an email to support - rather than an automated password recovery system - is a lot better than nothing...

Might not have a higher priority than the very next cool feature in PixInsight, but it's a pretty basic, standard and widespread usability feature (and I gather, not hard to do).


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Re: User ID/password recovery
« Reply #3 on: 2011 July 14 22:19:02 »
A "Forgot my password" link next to the sign-in box might be in order. Even if that just sends an email to support - rather than an automated password recovery system - is a lot better than nothing...

Might not have a higher priority than the very next cool feature in PixInsight, but it's a pretty basic, standard and widespread usability feature (and I gather, not hard to do).

A "Forgot my password" link next to the sign-in box might be in order.".....yes usually it is ...however this program is anything but usual :-)..so it s not there..unless I am missing it

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Re: User ID/password recovery
« Reply #4 on: 2011 July 15 01:27:02 »
Hello,

Do you have a commercial license? Your email address (from your forum user profile) is not in our commercial users database. Since you don't provide your real name either, we are unable to find your license data.

To recover your user name and password for your commercial license, you can email our support email address:

support/at/pixinsight/dot/com

You can use also our contact form from our website:

http://pixinsight.com/contact/

Please include your user identifier in your message to help us find your license. Our support staff will be glad to help you.

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A "Forgot my password" link next to the sign-in box might be in order.

Please note that our software distribution system is not a subscription/membership service such as a forum, blog, etc. Our system is exclusive for commercial PixInsight users and members of our development team, and provides full access to installation packages of our software and other sensitive material. We have done our best to build a secure system, where a password remainder/change option would be an unnecessary risk. On the other hand a link to say that "if you have lost your password then email support" would be pointless since all of our users already know that. All commercial PixInsight users receive the data of their user account on our servers, and our support staff are always glad to provide them upon request.
Juan Conejero
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http://pixinsight.com/

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Re: User ID/password recovery
« Reply #5 on: 2011 July 15 02:01:17 »
thanks Juan , will email the team using the link you provided, should I include the license number in the email?

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Re: User ID/password recovery
« Reply #6 on: 2011 July 15 02:28:16 »
Please note that our software distribution system is not a subscription/membership service such as a forum, blog, etc. Our system is exclusive for commercial PixInsight users and members of our development team, and provides full access to installation packages of our software and other sensitive material. We have done our best to build a secure system, where a password remainder/change option would be an unnecessary risk. On the other hand a link to say that "if you have lost your password then email support" would be pointless since all of our users already know that. All commercial PixInsight users receive the data of their user account on our servers, and our support staff are always glad to provide them upon request.

That's a very polite and well worded answer, Juan.

However, first, I disagree with the "pointlessness" of a simple link to email support. Of course when a user is "lost" the solution is to write support, and if you think a one-liner telling the user to write to support is then pointless, I'm not going to try convince you otherwise, but considering the "costs", not adding such simple note, as much as I commend your out-of-the-box thinking Juan, to me it's just obstinate behavior about a very simple usability concept.

As for security, I don't know Juan... I'd rather you work on PixInsight than on implementing a robust automated password recovery system, so please note I am not asking/suggesting you should implement one, but please... I see password recovery options not just in forums and blogs, but also at sites like American Express, VISA, bank or brokerage accounts, etc... sites I think also worry about "unnecessary risks" and the information behind each user's account also qualifies as rather high sensitive data.

They also tend to use https for the logins, while PixInsight does not, so between that and refusing to add a simple "write to us" link, there's some room there for improvement I'd say.

Do note *I* don't need that link, and to me this is a very minor issue, but since it's being discussed, I just let you know what any person who knows even just a bit about usability would tell you.
Refusing to follow that advice (adding a simple link), to me, again, it's not out-of-the-box thinking but considering the "costs", just obstinate behavior, again, about a very simple usability concept. 

Still remember, no matter how strong the fortress you may try to build around our commercial accounts here, which is appreciated, in the end it may be only as secure as the security of our email accounts. The Hotmails and what not of the world.

No need to debate this further. You know my opinion and whatever yours is, that's fine.

Cheers!

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Re: User ID/password recovery
« Reply #7 on: 2011 July 15 05:45:53 »
"would be pointless since all of our users already know that."

Right. Of course we have a user here who did NOT know that.
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