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Offline astronut1982

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Deconvolution issues
« on: 2015 February 09 07:43:14 »
Hi,

I'm trying to use deconvolution for the first time & I have come across a problem that I don't understand.

I'm processing the horsehead & I've been experimenting on a preview to get the settings right before applying to the linear image. The problem is that I have found settings which work fine on the previews & I'm happy that there is no ringing around the stars but when I apply it to the full image, I'm getting dark rings around the stars?

Correct me if I'm wrong but shouldn't using the same settings on the full image as on the preview, produce the same results?

Have included pics of the effect on the preview & the full image to show the problem & which settings I'm using.

Thanks in advance.

Jeff

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Re: Deconvolution issues
« Reply #1 on: 2015 February 09 08:55:09 »
Hi Astronut, I too find Decon previews to be less than perfect, sometimes getting results which vary significantly from what was previewed.
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Re: Deconvolution issues
« Reply #2 on: 2015 February 09 09:22:39 »
Hi Warren,

Thanks for that, it puts my mind at ease. That means that I'm not doing anything daft, I most likely just need to play around a bit more to find the right settings.

Cheers  :D

Jeff

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Re: Deconvolution issues
« Reply #3 on: 2015 February 09 09:37:57 »
Multiscale algorithms (wavelets et al) are, by their very nature, scale-dependent. This means that sometimes a preview may not work as expected, simply because the whole image contains structures at scales that are not well represented in the preview. The deringing and wavelet regularization algorithms implemented in the Deconvolution tool use multiscale techniques, so this problem can happen.

When this happens, try to use a larger preview covering a wider range of image structures, for example more background and nebular regions. This usually provides accurate results. For maximum accuracy, define a preview covering a relatively large area representative of the entire image.

In some multiscale tools, as for example MultiscaleLinearTransform and MultiscaleMedianTransform, we have implemented quite complex algorithms that precompute the transforms for the whole image and then use a cache to accelerate subsequent operations. This provides completely accurate previews (including real-time preview). Unfortunately, this is not possible for other tools such as Deconvolution and HDRMultiscaleTransform.
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Re: Deconvolution issues
« Reply #4 on: 2015 February 09 12:22:08 »
Thanks for that Juan. So easy for end users to be unaware of the full complexities behind the things we take for granted. I would second that most previews are spot on!
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Re: Deconvolution issues
« Reply #5 on: 2015 February 09 20:04:23 »
Thanks for the explanation Juan.

That makes sense as I was trying more settings to try & get it working & I finally did but didn't know what I had done to get it working. After seeing this, I realise that I had selected a much larger area to preview so this would tie in with what you are saying.

This is the first time I have ever had a problem with previews, all my other ones have been very accurate.

Jeff