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Offline shawnhar

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No stars found...DSLR
« on: 2014 August 19 08:51:27 »
 I am on the trial and cannot get PI to stack my DSLR data. I have tried Bilinear debayer, Noise reduction of 2, Maximum number of stars from 80 to 500, Pixel interpolation of default and Bibubic, different reference frames, tried only using 3 lights, nothing works, it goes through the whole process and at the end says "Error: No Stars Found".
 I can open 2 of the raw files and use the Star Alignment defaults no problem, spits out a registered image.
I can stack the data in Deep Sky Stacker...
Any idea what I am doing wrong?

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Re: No stars found...DSLR
« Reply #1 on: 2014 August 19 08:54:10 »
maybe try without the calibration frames? i think BPP will output the _c and _c_d files, so take a look at them and see if they have been corrupted by the calibration process.

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Re: No stars found...DSLR
« Reply #2 on: 2014 August 19 13:23:12 »
I had been using the Masters from DSS, pretty sure PI did not like that at all.
Used PI to generate the masters and got further, but still running into a roadblock
RANSAC.
 What can I do about this?

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Re: No stars found...DSLR
« Reply #3 on: 2014 August 19 18:55:57 »
Props to georg.viehoever
I scoured the forums for the RANSAC error and found his post about changing the default maximum stars from 500 to zero, BOOM, works like a champ.
 - Question to PI folks, why is this not the default in the BPP script?

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Re: No stars found...DSLR
« Reply #4 on: 2014 August 20 08:19:54 »
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- Question to PI folks, why is this not the default in the BPP script?

Because the default of 500 maximum stars works perfectly in 99.9 percent cases. By setting the maximum alignment stars to zero you are selecting StarAlignment's automatic probe mode. This special mode is only intended for difficult cases, such as alignment of images with very different geometries, or mosaics with very little overlapping.

For normal image preprocessing tasks you should *never* need to change the default value of this parameter. If BatchPreprocessing is giving you alignment errors, typical causes are:

- In the case of CFA images, the CFA Images option of the BPP has not been selected.

- Invalid master calibration frames. A common error is using a calibrated (bias-subtracted) master dark frame, since the BPP script expects the master dark to include the bias signal.

- Master frames generated by other applications, which in general are not compatible with our preprocessing tools.

- Extremely noisy light frames. In rare cases it may be necessary to use a nonzero noise reduction parameter (Image Registration section of BPP) to work with low-SNR images.

- Images with large amounts of strong cosmetic defects or bright artifacts can fool StarAlignment's star detection routines in very rare cases.

As a good starting point, I strongly recommend you watch the videos about the BatchPreprocessing script on the PixInsight Resources website. See also Harry Page's video tutorials and IP4AP video tutorials on introductory PixInsight topics.

On a side note, the current version of the BatchPreprocessing script is 1.37, released on July 14th. You should have received this version as a regular update to PixInsight 1.8.2.
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Re: No stars found...DSLR
« Reply #5 on: 2014 August 20 08:46:24 »
Thanks Juan!

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Re: No stars found...DSLR
« Reply #6 on: 2014 August 20 13:00:03 »
Just to continue my education on this topic, I have a couple of hypothetical questions.  (I have only ever used the default value and haven't considered any changes although I have also had some failures in the past with noisy or low SNR frames. I live in a pretty light-polluted area.)

What happens if you select a value between 0 and 500, say 250?

What happens if you select a value exceeding 500, say 600 or 1,000?
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