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Offline Jan

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SEEKING ADVICE
« on: 2013 April 12 11:26:05 »
Hi guys, I have a small problem here. I normally use batch preprocessing script. Suddenly, the resulting calibrated images have really strange colours - shifted towards the red and when I align channels eg in histogram transform, the result has neutral, but slightly shifted colours, very hard to saturate and when saturated, it is just not it. I tried to reset al values to default, but did not help.

I have to ad, that i have precessed this data before and there was no problem (now i just wanted to experiment with value settings and integration settings..). Also I took another data from other folder and everything was fine, result was awsome. Does anyone have idea what can be the problem? THANKS!

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Re: SEEKING ADVICE
« Reply #1 on: 2013 April 12 11:35:17 »
I'll assume that you are using a DSLR. Check your options for opening the raw format. Make sure to select "no black point compensation" and create a bayered image (I use the grayscale one, since it uses less memory).
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Re: SEEKING ADVICE
« Reply #2 on: 2013 April 12 13:00:57 »
You may also want to try BackgroundNeutralization and ColorCalibration.
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Re: SEEKING ADVICE
« Reply #3 on: 2013 April 12 13:51:50 »
A little misunderstanding here, actually it has nothing to do with any backround color calibration, the image has just totally cast towards red, stars LOOK red after preprocessing, and I wasnnot experiencing this before even with the same set of image files.

I have double checked by your advice Carlos, and all settings seem all right. As I said, other image sets of cr2 turn out normally. Just one set of data is giving me these results- but the same data weree fine few weeks ago.

Bayered images look 1A+, nicely calibrated. But during debayerisation the image just turns out incorrectly. I have even checked again correct debayer settings, even changed them, but no change..

I am sure it will be one tick somewhere, but can not figure out what it can be...:(

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Re: SEEKING ADVICE
« Reply #4 on: 2013 April 12 14:15:19 »
Maybe it is something related to the flats (just guessing).
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Re: SEEKING ADVICE
« Reply #5 on: 2013 April 12 14:44:42 »
Well actually it should not be the probem with darks, because as I said above, when I processed this set of data before, there was no problem at including calibration files.. Dont know what to do with..:-)

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Re: SEEKING ADVICE
« Reply #6 on: 2013 April 13 01:39:23 »
Well actually it should not be the probem with darks, because as I said above, when I processed this set of data before, there was no problem at including calibration files.. Dont know what to do with..:-)
Whatever the root cause of the problem is: you should be able to get rid of the color cast with the tools I mentioned above.
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Re: SEEKING ADVICE
« Reply #7 on: 2013 April 13 06:16:48 »
Georg I appreciate your advice but color cast generally is not what I need to solve, I need to solve something wrong happening during calibration. Of course I did try to balance colours, but as I have written in the original question, this was ok EXCEPT that saturation was weak after that and increasing saturation showed the colours are just not what I normally get out of the script. To conclude- of course there are other means hiw to get rid of the problem, by I need to find the root, otherwise I will just be trying to improve images crippeled by wrong something and the result will be even more crippeled ;) This is why I really need to find out why things which did work before do not work now;) Inwould compare it to the situation when you have images with weak sharpness- or you use sharpening tools or you look for better technique to focus your images- I look for the second one;)

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Re: SEEKING ADVICE
« Reply #8 on: 2013 April 13 07:36:44 »
Does a single uncalibrated image brought into PI and manually debayered look ok?

Do you have dark optimisation switched on? I dont find it works as well with OSC images as it does with mono frames.

Good though the BPP script is, I much prefer to calibrate, cosmetic correct, debayer, register and stack as separate processes. I run blink before stacking to get rid of any suspect frames and check a sample at each stage to be sure things are as I would expect them.

Chris