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« on: 2011 December 29 01:56:03 »
Hi

Since I have downloaded the latest version , the star reg module does not seem as good i,e it will not register images that it did before

Has anyone else seen this  :o

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Re: registration
« Reply #1 on: 2011 December 29 03:03:00 »
Hi Harry,

I have introduced some changes in the star detector. In all my tests these changes have improved star detection, making it more robust in difficult cases. Could you upload two of those images where you're having problems? Maybe you need to decrease the detection scales parameter from 5 to 4 (I have seen this behavior in a few rare cases).
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Re: registration
« Reply #2 on: 2011 December 29 03:16:47 »
Hi

I have uploaded to the usual place  :D

It does not have a problem seeing the stars , just can not match any  :D

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Re: registration
« Reply #3 on: 2011 December 29 07:34:10 »
I see what Harry is talking about, the default Log Sensitivity  of ( -1.0 ) detects around 20,000 stars, like I would see if the images were not DeBayered.
I changed the Log Sensitivity to (+1.0) and I detect around 500 stars, this is normal for my noisy images.
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Re: registration
« Reply #4 on: 2011 December 29 10:02:51 »
Indeed the problem is not with star detection, but just the opposite: too many stars :) The images can be registered without problems by just increasing the noise scales parameter (star detection section) up to 3, and leaving the rest of parameters with default values, including detection scales = 5.

These images have a significant scale difference of 1:0.67. The current star detector, as noted in the documentation, has some difficulties with this. Summarizing, too many stars are being detected (comparatively) in the large-scale image, which leads to a complex star matching problem with very high uncertainty due to proliferation of small-scale triangles. It seems the changes I have introduced aggravate this problem because the star detector is now more sensitive. By increasing the noise scales parameter, only the brightest stars are detected in a consistent way on both images, which simplifies the problem by removing billions of small-scale triangles.

Thanks for an interesting test case. It is obvious that we need a better star detector to deal with large scale differences.
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Re: registration
« Reply #5 on: 2011 December 29 14:27:54 »
Hi

I have never had a problem with scale differances of up to 100% , so was not exspecting a problem  >:D

I have been playing further and even simple images do not register at the default setting but do work with the suggested alteration.

How can I alter the default or do I have to fiddle every time I use the tool  :-[  , Never happy us customers :-*

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Re: registration
« Reply #6 on: 2012 January 09 10:49:01 »
Further to what Harry reported already: PI 1.7.4 (64 bit on MacOSX) on this station was unable to detect any star in some of my noisy subs that presented never any problem whatsoever for the default detection settings in previous version 1.7.0.

In my case this problem in 1.7.4 was solved by lowering the detection scale from 5 to 4 and increasing the noise scales from 1 to 3.
 

EDIT (2000h UTC) :

The update that was received 5 minutes ago, fixed all (my) problems: stars are detected again.
This is a very quick but effective fix ... thanks!

« Last Edit: 2012 January 09 13:02:07 by Hans Pleijsier »

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Re: registration
« Reply #7 on: 2012 January 09 13:21:22 »
This bug (actually a regression) is now fixed. We have released an update for all platforms with a new version of the ImageRegistration module.

The new version has a modified star detection routine that should perform much better for registration under relatively large scale differences. Thank you and sorry for the inconvenience.
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Re: registration
« Reply #8 on: 2012 January 09 13:29:30 »
Hi

Had a quick go , seems much better  ;)

Many thanks Mr Juan  ^-^

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