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Offline sreilly

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HaRGB....Again
« on: 2011 June 28 08:59:08 »
I've searched the messages and read over some long ago posts but didn't really find any current posts on this. Back in 2009 there was some talk of a module for combining data this way but I can't seem to locate any recent info. What I have is additional data on my M57 image. The data so far consists of 11-30 minute Ha images (5.5 Hrs). 10-20 minute red images (3-1/3 Hrs), 9-20 minute green images (3 Hrs), 12-20 minute blue images (4 Hrs), and 12-20 minute luminance images (4 Hrs). As I posted in an earlier post, processing the image in PI I've been able to get two basic results using the LRGB data. Either the nebula is displayed as not being blown out (too bright) and the background barely shows stars or the background looks good and the nebula is blown out. I can't seem to find a way in PI to balance the two, good background and good nebula. The two posted images are rgb combines only.

After accomplishing that I'd like to add the Ha data to bring out the faint outer two rings. Any and all suggestions would be extremely welcomed.
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Re: HaRGB....Again
« Reply #1 on: 2011 June 28 10:55:06 »
Hi

Have a look at selective blend which helps mixing  ;D http://pixinsight.com/forum/index.php?topic=2275.0

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Re: HaRGB....Again
« Reply #2 on: 2011 June 28 13:45:24 »
I was recently looking for something similar. Finally I used PixelMath, based on what has been posted as Vicent's technic. But since I had different sub-exposures and binning for Ha and R I made my assumptions how the maths should be expanded to include this. Not sure if the assumptions are correct, but at least I'm getting pretty good results.  I finished with the attached PixelMath, applied on either Ha or R - does not really matter which one, it will create a new HaR image anyway, which you use as a new R to produce a (HaR)GB image with LRGB tool. Not sure if the color weights have any meaning here, I used 1:1:1 and continued from there. Not something fancy, just a quick way to do the job with some try-and-error for the parameters. I also tried something similar with O3 + B and O3+G and seems that the trick works, but I had very bad O3 data and could not really test it. I was actually thinking to make a script with some sliders to allow playing with the parameters, but -as usual- time is not something easily found :( And I'm pretty sure the blending tool will be a lot more superior than this.

Ha and R should be linear and aligned together

The math is combined to make it easier

har = (r * r_mult) + ( ha_mult * (ha - (bandw_Ha / bandw_R) * ( r - (tR / tHa) * ha ) ))

where

r     the R image
ha   the Ha image
bandw_Ha : Ha's bandwith (7 for Baader)
bandw_R: R's bandwith (100 for Baader)
tR: total time of R , calculated as subs*sub_time*bin
tHa: total time for Ha, same calculation
r_mult and ha_mult the mixing factors


Just my 2 cents
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Re: HaRGB....Again
« Reply #3 on: 2011 June 28 15:03:18 »
30 minutes each Steve and perfect stars, that excellent.

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Re: HaRGB....Again
« Reply #4 on: 2011 June 28 15:49:39 »
The 2 Ha JPGs are here. They are simply combined and scaled. One has HST applied to bring up the faint details.
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Re: HaRGB....Again
« Reply #5 on: 2011 June 28 15:50:36 »
And the other....
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Re: HaRGB....Again
« Reply #6 on: 2011 June 28 19:16:17 »
Hi

Have a look at selective blend which helps mixing  ;D http://pixinsight.com/forum/index.php?topic=2275.0

Regards Harry

Harry,

Thanks for the information but what am I suppose to do with these downloaded files to get them in PI?

Steve
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OGS 12.5" RC
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STL-11000M/FW8/AO-L
Pyxis 3" Rotator
Baader LRGBHa Filters
PixInsight/MaxIm/ACP/Registar/Mira AP/PS CS5