Author Topic: Issue with SCNR noise reduction  (Read 4409 times)

Offline johnrt

  • Newcomer
  • Posts: 22
    • My Flickr Page
Issue with SCNR noise reduction
« on: 2011 January 06 15:34:32 »
When I use the SCNR tool to remove green pixels the process does the opposite - adds green - preserve lum check box has no effect. The red and blue still seem to function correctly.
I am on a mac running 64bit.

Offline Carlos Milovic

  • PTeam Member
  • PixInsight Jedi Master
  • ******
  • Posts: 2172
  • Join the dark side... we have cookies
    • http://www.astrophoto.cl
Re: Issue with SCNR noise reduction
« Reply #1 on: 2011 January 06 20:37:12 »
Do you have the last version, with all upgrades?
Regards,

Carlos Milovic F.
--------------------------------
PixInsight Project Developer
http://www.pixinsight.com

Offline johnrt

  • Newcomer
  • Posts: 22
    • My Flickr Page
Re: Issue with SCNR noise reduction
« Reply #2 on: 2011 January 07 00:25:32 »
Yes I am running ver. 0652 with all the updates downloaded.

Offline johnrt

  • Newcomer
  • Posts: 22
    • My Flickr Page
Re: Issue with SCNR noise reduction
« Reply #3 on: 2011 January 09 23:22:39 »
Is nobody else having issues with this?

Offline Simon Hicks

  • PixInsight Old Hand
  • ****
  • Posts: 333
Re: Issue with SCNR noise reduction
« Reply #4 on: 2011 January 10 05:34:11 »
Are you using Green / Average Neutral as the settings? These work for me.

Offline Juan Conejero

  • PTeam Member
  • PixInsight Jedi Grand Master
  • ********
  • Posts: 7111
    • http://pixinsight.com/
Re: Issue with SCNR noise reduction
« Reply #5 on: 2011 January 11 00:53:08 »
Hi John,

The problem is in the "Preserve luminance" option of SCNR. Just don't use it when you are removing green.

If you enable that option, you can easily end with more green than before applying SCNR. The reason is that green's contribution to luminance is about 70% in perceptual RGB color spaces (such as the default sRGB color space), so to preserve the original luminance after neutralizing a significant part of the green pixels the process has to inject more green in the image. Then we enter an endless loop: remove some green and then reinject it to satisfy the luminance preservation constraint... ad infinitum :)

I'm considering the possibility of dropping the preserve luminance option of SCNR precisely for this reason.
Juan Conejero
PixInsight Development Team
http://pixinsight.com/

Offline Carlos Milovic

  • PTeam Member
  • PixInsight Jedi Master
  • ******
  • Posts: 2172
  • Join the dark side... we have cookies
    • http://www.astrophoto.cl
Re: Issue with SCNR noise reduction
« Reply #6 on: 2011 January 11 12:25:17 »
Juan, you may just disable it as default, but keep the option.
Regards,

Carlos Milovic F.
--------------------------------
PixInsight Project Developer
http://www.pixinsight.com

Offline johnrt

  • Newcomer
  • Posts: 22
    • My Flickr Page
Re: Issue with SCNR noise reduction
« Reply #7 on: 2011 January 12 03:51:51 »
Thanks for the explanation on this.