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Offline RBA

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Re: Harrys user guide
« Reply #15 on: 2010 March 29 10:57:18 »
It would need to be done by someone very knowledgeable about PI so all those buttons and sliders could be explained and demonstrated.

A video explaining what "all those buttons do" would be overkill. Videos are good for practical cases, not as a reference guide.

OTOH I think an English teacher should teach English, and a French teacher should teach French.

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Re: Harrys user guide
« Reply #16 on: 2010 March 30 10:10:36 »
what about a english teacher born in France teaching french to english speakers? :D
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Re: Harrys user guide
« Reply #17 on: 2010 March 31 14:05:30 »
Hi

Right added a few more pages to my user guide ( Not as fast as mr RBA)

http://www.harrysastroshed.com/pixuser/pixuserhome.html

Worth still doing or will mr RBA take be the way to go

Genuine opinions would be great

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Re: Harrys user guide
« Reply #18 on: 2010 March 31 14:37:51 »
I never give genuine opinions :)

I think all these efforts are great!
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Re: Harrys user guide
« Reply #19 on: 2010 March 31 14:47:29 »
I wrote that guide mainly as a starting point for PI to have an "official"reference guide. Your guide/tutorials are more personal. Paraphrasing what I mentioned in the "about" page, if you have the time, the interest and the will to do it, don't stop!!
That's a very genuine answer BTW  :)

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Re: Harrys user guide
« Reply #20 on: 2010 April 03 06:03:14 »
Steve,

it would be great if Adam Block or Warren Keller or any other of the 'greats' in astro classes would make a set for PI. Of course the problem is they'd be PI beginners too :)



It may be a bias but if you could get Tony Hallas on board you'd be a few steps ahead. The reason I say this is that Tony has always been known for digging out the deepest details in an image. His PS series DVD on image processing is the best I've seen, and I've seen most of them. Heck, I've bought most of them. PI has the ability to get to detail that is only barely possible in PS and does so in 32 bit depth, a huge difference. Tony is also well known in the conference circles as he often speaks at these.

I have great respect for Warren and Adam but Tony has a great way of presenting the processes that makes it just plain clear. Even though I think that Tony's taste and mine are different, to be able to get these details and tune the image to what ever level you like is a valuable ability.
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Re: Harrys user guide
« Reply #21 on: 2010 April 03 06:25:36 »
As has been mentioned, as a new user to PI, real world example uses, and when to use these processes, would be a big boost. I've been imaging for 12 years and can honestly say that I've yet to find any processing package easy to learn. Each has it's own unique way of doing things, which is what separates all the packages. Work flow graphs with additional look up information would also help the beginner. For example, Harry has a great video on processing a galaxy image but I haven't seen anything on processing nebula which is quite different.

Another example is the HDR tool. Lots of options but not sure what they really offer. On one image, the stars got dark in the center, deringing seemed to help this but I can't say why. The only time I ever used deringing was when I did some planet imaging with a webcam and processed it in another software. It had like 6 levels of wavelet processing but other than real time view, I didn't, and still don't, have a clue what I was doing. I guess this is OK but the knowing is a powerful thing.
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Re: Harrys user guide
« Reply #22 on: 2010 April 03 09:33:18 »
HI Steve

I would suggest that juan did do a tutorial on M42, which I think is a nebula  ;D Or are you after something step by step ?  , I personally do not find processing them to different , just dbe can be harder to do .

With HDR wavelets The deringing you are talking about stops you overemphasizing areas to much ( i.e. usually to dark ) , the dark centres are due to inversion with the HDR tool and you will have to mask the stars to stop this , I did a video on this http://www.harrysastroshed.com/mask.html

I will have to write up a bit more on hdr wavelets and layers  ;D

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Re: Harrys user guide
« Reply #23 on: 2010 April 03 12:49:12 »
Yes, that tutorial was very enlightening on how DBE works. One of the big 'tricks' I learned there was that you can create helper images to place your samples and then move that sample collection to the image that needs correcting. I typically do several iteratations where I place the existing DBE set on the subtracted image and correct as necessary before going back to the original.
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Re: Harrys user guide
« Reply #24 on: 2010 April 04 13:43:46 »
Hi

Well I have done 7 tools so far only a few more dozen to go  :yell:

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Re: Harrys user guide
« Reply #25 on: 2010 April 04 14:57:55 »
Good work Harry!  A real nice addition.
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