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Offline balt

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What can you do with this stacked frame?
« on: 2009 September 13 14:08:18 »
Hi all,

I think there's no greater learning experience than seeing some of the professionals work with data I have obtained. I tend to blame my bad tracking/alignment or other setup problems for the lesser quality of my astro photos, I wonder how much of that can be fixed in post? So rather than having a tutorial demonstrating working with the top of the crop acquired image, it would be a little bit of a challenge to improve on what I think for many people without permanent telescope setups is reality: Not always perfectly round stars, drift, only 98% in focus etc...

I also would be very interested to see what some of you come up with creatively and aesthetically, given this stack of 150 x 30 second exposures of a wide field around the Trifid and Lagoon nebulas.

The original FITS file created by DSS can be downloaded here (~130MB): http://www.inside.net/trila.zip

This is what I have done with it: http://www.inside.net/trila_2.jpg

I processed it as follows:
- AutomaticBackgroundExtractor (division, not subtraction, since I have no flats)
- Resampled to 90% width, to reduce some of the drift (this only works because by pure chance the drift is roughly X oriented). I also tried to do that with a motion blur PSF L-R deconvolution, which, scientifically speaking, would be the proper way to try and fix this. But that didn't do a very good job at all.
- HistogramTransformation, midtones at 0.003
- Then two HDRWaveletTransforms: The first one to accentuate larger features, default settings with a 5x5 B3 spline scaling function, the second one with a 7x7 Peaked (1). Interestingly, the results look much better when those transforms are done AFTER the HistogramScaling, which is somewhat contrary to the way the HDR Transforms should be done, on a linear dataset namely.

If you can document what you've done that would make a very valuable tutorial for us simple DSLR people.

Cheers

- Balt
« Last Edit: 2009 September 13 15:38:42 by balt »

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Re: What can you do with this stacked frame?
« Reply #1 on: 2009 September 13 20:37:01 »
Well.. here is my try
Thanks for the image to play around with... nice shot.


DBE
Color Calibration
Histogram Transformation
HDRWavelet
ACDNR
SCNR
Histoogram
Dark Structure Enhance
Saturation via Curves
Unsharp Mask
Scale down
save as JPG  to fit the 128kb required
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Re: What can you do with this stacked frame?
« Reply #2 on: 2009 September 13 20:45:09 »
Beautiful! If you still have it, can you email me the a full size jpg, balt at inside dot net, thanks! I'm interested to see what happened with the star shapes.

Cheers

- Balt


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Re: What can you do with this stacked frame?
« Reply #3 on: 2009 September 14 07:15:58 »
I have a .TIF file from right before I scaled the image down.  I need to "shrink" it as it's 64bit floating point and larger then your original FIT file :)
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Re: What can you do with this stacked frame?
« Reply #4 on: 2009 September 14 18:47:33 »
You have email coming your way.. It reduced down to 2.7 meg.
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Re: What can you do with this stacked frame?
« Reply #5 on: 2009 September 17 23:48:30 »
Hi balt

Thanks for uploadind this image. It was fun processing something again. And this is a very nice field.

Here is my result:


And here is a full size jpeg:
http://pteam.pixinsight.com/carlos/Autosave_f.jpg


If you wanna know what I did, take a look here:
http://pteam.pixinsight.com/carlos/trila.psm

There are two process containers, with the linear and nonlinear steps I followed. After all of them, I went into multiscale processing. This is quite complex, time consuming (but fun for me) and needs a fully tutorial to be explained as it deserves, so it will be my "little secret" for a while ;)

Hope you like it, and the containers will give you a hint of how to work your images. Play with the parameters, and see how the results changes.


PS: I processed it in another computer, but the same screen... now that I see it here, it looks a lot darker... I guess that I need a good monitor calibration! :D
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Re: What can you do with this stacked frame?
« Reply #6 on: 2009 September 18 18:51:32 »
That's a beautiful result! I'll look at the psm and play with it, I;'ve in the meantime taken some more pictures that I can process with this.

Thanks again!

- Balt