Author Topic: Subframe Selector - when would noise/snr vary across frames within a session?  (Read 2856 times)

Offline Phil Leigh

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I'm struggling to understand something. My Noise/SNR readings are almost constant across my DSLR light frames within a session - even though my FWHM and star support worsen as seeing deteriorates. Is this normal? - what causes SNR/Noise to worsen?
Also, given Pi's "noise evaluation" methodology, does it makes sense to filter out subs based on SNR sigma thresholds?
many thanks
Phil

Offline mschuster

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Hi Phil,

PI's noise evaluation tends to measure noise in a frame's background. This goes up with increased dark current (e.g higher sensor temp), increased light pollution, increased sky glow, etc. Hence SNR tends to decrease in these cases.

The signal part of SNR is a measure of frame scale or contrast. This goes down with poorer transparency, thin high clouds, etc. Again SNR tends to decrease.

Both noise and signal measures are estimates, so there is room for error. For example if the frames have differing gradients the estimates can be less accurate.

For my own frames I use SNR, FWHM and eccentricity. Star support is less useful to me because my frames are undersampled. In good seeing the smallest stars get rejected as hot pixels. In poor seeing these stars get bloated and so are then counted. So on my frames a higher star support means a poorer frame.

Regards,
Mike

Offline Phil Leigh

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Hi Mike - and thanks for your brilliant work on these scripts.

I'm probably wildly oversampled, using an 18Mp APS-C sensor in a ultra-cooled camera with (virtually) zero thermal noise/dark current.

I think you have probably nailed my question... so if I have no dark signal and constant LP/skyglow the noise part of SNR will stay ~the same... but clouds etc will reduce signal so SNR goes down...

Thanks
Phil