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Offline Batch

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Question on narrow band imaging
« on: 2017 March 18 10:45:56 »
I am interested in getting into narrowband imaging but unfortunately know very little about processing NB. I have a set of filters on order (Ha, OIII, SII) and presently image with a couple of modified DSLRs (plan to get a mono Astro camera at some future date).

After going through some of the tutorials I have a couple of questions wIth respect to image calibration. Do I have to shoot a series of flats for each filter? I also understand that the individual subs can be long (10 - 30 minutes) so will I have to create a dark library with matching times? How many? I currently have a large dark library for both cameras but the longest exposure time is 5 minutes as I rarely shoot longer subs from my Imaging location.

Any additional info would be appreciated. Thanks.

Bill

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Re: Question on narrow band imaging
« Reply #1 on: 2017 March 18 12:41:25 »
Hi Bill

90% of my imaging is with a 3nm Ha filter (I like B&W images and am collecting Sharpless Ha regions) but you may well get some conflicting advice, there is a lot of latitude.

Nearly all of my exposures are in the 30 minute range with some, for the fainter objects, then being binned 2x2. I collect 200 Bias and tend to do 64 Darks and flats. No real scientific reason! I do Flats for each filter and matching darks both 1x1 and 2x2 and yes collecting darks takes a coupe of days! Darks and Bias can be re-used for several months so I do them during a rainy spell (we get lots of them in the UK) and will even re-use flats until I find them no longer working well, typically every 6 weeks or so.

Chris

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Re: Question on narrow band imaging
« Reply #2 on: 2017 March 19 07:23:25 »
Hi Bill,

Chris has summarised pretty well.

You will need flats 'every' time you change your optical train - and that includes whenever you change filters. Be careful when changing back to an optical setup for which you may feel you already have an adequate library of flats - can you really be absolutely sure that you have duplicated the optical setup 'exactly'? If not, and if your flats then prove to be inadequate, you may not be able to successfully calibrate the lights that you may have worked hard to obtain.

Taking good Flats is as important as taking Lights - and both are more important than their associated Darks, which are themselves more important than any Biases.

Darks (and Biases if you cannot maintain an adequate library of Darks) have a pretty long 'shelf-life'. Even if you don't have a temperature-controlled imager, then all you need is a library of darks that contains enough data to cover the exposure times you are using, and the temperatures that were encountered during the imaging session(s).

As for 'qunatities' of each type of image, then you can never have 'too much' data (only an 'unmanageable quantity' of exposures), My preference is to always acquire the same number of calibration frames (of each type) as I have Lights - and I always set out to acquire as many Lights as the weather conditions permit.

However, if you are going to do NB imaging with a modified DSLR, then you are going to be facing even lomger exposure times than normal - simply because you will actually be running those elusive photons through two sets of filters, not just one. Those longer exposure times will make the acquisition of the sheer amount of raw data that you need even more of a challenge (long Lights and Darks, and much longer Flats and FlatDarks - for every filter-change that you perform).

But, the rewards could be even sweeter, given the challenges that you will have had to overcome!
Cheers,
Niall Saunders
Clinterty Observatories
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Offline Batch

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Re: Question on narrow band imaging
« Reply #3 on: 2017 March 19 18:03:21 »
Thanks guys....great information. I'm looking forward to it.

Bill