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PixInsight => Workshops and Conferences => Topic started by: Sean on 2012 February 27 10:26:35

Title: PixInsight Presentation in Portland, OR in May
Post by: Sean on 2012 February 27 10:26:35
I will be giving a one hour PixInsight Presentation at the 2012 Imaging the Sky Conference on May 5, 2012, in Hiillsboro Oregon, just outside the Portland metro area. The conference itself is Saturday and Sunday, May 5-6, and registration is free. However, space is limited, so pre-registration is required. There are a lot of great presentations over the 2 days, so hope to see some of you there.

Full details at http://www.stargazing.net/david/workshop/20120505workshop.html (http://www.stargazing.net/david/workshop/20120505workshop.html)

Sean
Title: Re: PixInsight Presentation in Portland, OR in May
Post by: Nocturnal on 2012 February 27 10:37:16
Cool, good luck!
Title: Re: PixInsight Presentation in Portland, OR in May
Post by: sleshin on 2012 February 27 12:42:33
Looks like a great conference. Good luck with your presentation.

Steve
Title: Re: PixInsight Presentation in Portland, OR in May
Post by: Juan Conejero on 2012 February 29 11:34:14
Hi Sean,

Thank you for your support. Should you need any information or data for your presentation, please let me know if we can help.
Title: Re: PixInsight Presentation in Portland, OR in May
Post by: Nocturnal on 2012 February 29 11:39:59
Dinner for two at elBulli? A fruit basket?
Title: Re: PixInsight Presentation in Portland, OR in May
Post by: Juan Conejero on 2012 March 01 01:30:11
Unfortunately, elBulli no longer operates as a restaurant:

http://www.elbulli.com/home.php?lang=en

Given its prices however, this fact is actually irrelevant for me :)

In case Sean needs a fruit basket we indeed can arrange that :-)
Title: Re: PixInsight Presentation in Portland, OR in May
Post by: Nocturnal on 2012 March 01 11:08:28
Oh I know elBulli isn't open for business right now :)

Title: Re: PixInsight Presentation in Portland, OR in May
Post by: Sean on 2012 March 03 13:06:14
Thanks everyone - I'll report back after the conference.

Juan, a fruit basket certainly isn't necessary, but how about some hints on what PI 2.0 will contain? :)

Sean
Title: Re: PixInsight Presentation in Portland, OR in May
Post by: Nocturnal on 2012 March 03 13:24:34
PixInsight hat or t-shirt maybe?
Title: Re: PixInsight Presentation in Portland, OR in May
Post by: Juan Conejero on 2012 March 05 12:58:09
Hi Sean,

It's too soon to say anything serious about version 2.0 of PixInsight. Too many unknowns. Version 2.0 of PixInsight should be released in 2013, or early 2014 as a maximum.

Software development is getting hard and complex in unusual and weird ways. Operating systems will be transforming our efficient and productive workstations into dumb environments more and more similar to smartphones (http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/gnome-3.html). Qt 5 (as you probably know PixInsight is based on the Qt framework (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qt_%28framework%29)) will be posing unexpected problems to adapt PixInsight's modular architecture to new GUI constructive paradigms. It's going to be hard, but we'll have to adapt to the new working environments or die. Or become obsolete, which is even worse.

Some general goals for PixInsight 2.0 would be:

* GPU acceleration via OpenCL (perhaps we'll see some first attempts to do this in version 1.8 or 1.9).

* Completely redesigned workspace with more dynamic features (Qt 5 will play a key role here).

* Complete platform independence. PixInsight should look *exactly* the same on all supported platforms. Actually, we have already achieved most of this goal with version 1.7.

* Better JavaScript runtime with an integrated debugger.

* Integration of the Python scripting language.

* Implementations of new multiscale processing techniques: curvelets, shapelets, hybrid morphological-wavelet transforms (this is also a goal for the last 1.x versions).

Of course, I don't promise anything :)
Title: Re: PixInsight Presentation in Portland, OR in May
Post by: Nocturnal on 2012 March 05 13:02:42
I don't know about Macs but Windows 8 machines will look and feel similar to W7 which in turn is still familiar for W95 users. Metro can be disabled without much trouble afterall. I doubt Linux desktops will have anything like Metro but if they do it will be optional.

Python? Not as nice as Ruby but I sure prefer it over javascript :)
Title: Re: PixInsight Presentation in Portland, OR in May
Post by: Juan Conejero on 2012 March 05 13:10:04
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Metro can be disabled without much trouble afterall.

Disable is the problem. Or better, a first sign of the problem. We'll have to start disabling major new system features to turn it back into something that *works*. The problem is: Metro is inefficient. GNOME 3 is inefficient (and yes, it is essentially the same paradigm as Metro). Good Old Desktops are efficient and productive. New software has to adapt to inefficient environments or become obsolete, sooner or later...
Title: Re: PixInsight Presentation in Portland, OR in May
Post by: Juan Conejero on 2012 March 05 13:11:13
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Python? Not as nice as Ruby but I sure prefer it over javascript

I do prefer JavaScript, actually :)
Title: Re: PixInsight Presentation in Portland, OR in May
Post by: Nocturnal on 2012 March 05 13:16:42
My point is that people who are enlightened enough to use PI will know how to disable Metro. I am not worried about this development from a PI or even a general workstation perspective. Corporate IT will not allow default Metro installs so their interests are in line with ours. MS will make it easy to disable Metro for old dogs like us who are perfectly happy with keyboards and mic thank you very much :)

If not then W7 will become the new XP and we'll still be chatting about it 10 years from now.

Let's not play Chicken Little. Metro is of no consequence to PI. You will not be the only software vendor who's wondering how his 'traditional' software is going to fit. Do you really think MS is going to p1ss off all AutoCAD users? All Photoshoppers? Of course not. PI is special but not *that* special. If W8 will work for PS and AC it'll work for PI.

Can't speak to whatever Apple has in store but I imagine it's similar.
Title: Re: PixInsight Presentation in Portland, OR in May
Post by: Nocturnal on 2012 March 05 13:17:01
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Python? Not as nice as Ruby but I sure prefer it over javascript

I do prefer JavaScript, actually :)

Of course you do :)
Title: Re: PixInsight Presentation in Portland, OR in May
Post by: Juan Conejero on 2012 March 05 13:42:03
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Python? Not as nice as Ruby but I sure prefer it over javascript

I do prefer JavaScript, actually :)

Of course you do :)

Glad to see you're getting to know me  ;D
Title: Re: PixInsight Presentation in Portland, OR in May
Post by: Nocturnal on 2012 March 09 09:18:13
How to disable Metro in W8

www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/the-metro-haters-guide-to-customizing-windows-8-consumer-preview/4610?tag=nl.e539
Title: Re: PixInsight Presentation in Portland, OR in May
Post by: Sean on 2012 May 07 16:16:07
Just back from the Imaging the Sky Conference in Portland, and I think my PixInsight presentation went fairly well. I covered the general layout and functionality, then did a live demo of LRGB processing with some NGC7331 data from my CDK 12.5. I took a page from Steve Leshin's great presentation at AIC, and started with calibrated and aligned L,R,G, and B masters, and went from there. I managed to cover DBE, Deconvolution, Multiscale Median Transform, LRGB Combination, Noise Reduction, HDR Multiscale Transform, etc, etc, with a bit of Masking and Histogram Transformation thrown in - all in an hour - phew!

People are always wowed by DBE and the multi-scale processing. The data I used were from my CDK first light, and I had no flats, but DBE made short work of the vignetting (although I made it clear that I don't recommend this approach!). I also showed an annotated final image of NGC7331, and emphasized all of the great user contributed tools that are available in PI.

I suspect we may have a few new members of the PI family joining us soon...

Sean
Title: Re: PixInsight Presentation in Portland, OR in May
Post by: sleshin on 2012 May 07 16:33:19
Sounds great, Sean. Wish I could have been there.

Steve
Title: Re: PixInsight Presentation in Portland, OR in May
Post by: Geoff on 2012 May 07 16:54:17
My point is that people who are enlightened enough to use PI will know how to disable Metro.
Not sure where I fit in. I use PI, so I guess I'm enlightened, but Metro has never crossed my radar.
Geoff